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    In light of all the recent unpleasantness - Posted on 2006-08-24 11:30:31

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Here's a thought from Benjamin Franklin: "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Discuss.

 

 

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   In light of all the recent unpleasantness - Posted on 2006-08-24 12:01:18

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hear hear.......... you cant go around saying we live in a free society and then take away our freedoms to "protect us". i for one dont require any protection am very capable of looking after meself . the removal of freedoms does not protect the masses but rather panders to the terrorist. whatever happend to the blitz spirit of our grandparents!!!!! bin laden and his ilk must be pissing themselves laughing at the west as the politicians run about like headless chickens trying to think of ways to make life safe for us. heres a hint to Tony Blair and George Bush. "If there is a fire in your house and it is safe to remove the fire then rather than flood your house with water, remove the burning object! ....... (now as both of em are not exactly known for rational thought, id better explain ...... it means if your enemy lives among you remove them from your society!!!!!). If abdul isnt happy living here cos he wants sharia law then he can always sell up and buy a one way ticket out.... course no one will give him a free house or a benefit cheque or free education or free health service etc etc so no doubt they will stay and try to subvert our free society from within. it has already been suggested that to appease the angry muslim youth in the UK that we have a two tier legal system.... sharia law for them and UK law for the rest of us... No concerns about the angry british people at all from government and they have yet to come foreward and say No! bugger off!! to the sharia law suggestion either. can just see the press having a field day as young muslim women who are raped are put on trial themselves for indecency and then stoned to death. This country must wake up and take control of our borders again. If you dont like our way of life then leave! simple really. (and i dont want em all to go either before someone accuses me of racism or similar, i have no problem with the vast majority of immigrants , lets face it mostly they came to find a better life, but i aint gonna sit still and listen to em try to make this country into a replica of the shi*hole they came from.

 

   In light of all the recent unpleasantness - Posted on 2006-08-24 12:22:15

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True enough, you buy the full package when you emigrate, don't go to N Z if you're allergic to kiwi feathers, don't come to the UK if you want sharia law. By all means keep your identity if you wish but remember your country comes first, your family second and your religion third; this does not mean that we have to follow the route of "My country, right or wrong" that's why we have elections. The great thing about politicians is that they are so power hungry and venal that they will agree with any majority that offers them power; get out there and form a majority! No-one ever got peace through bombing campaigns, that only comes when the fighting stops and the talk starts.

 

   In light of all the recent unpleasantness - Posted on 2006-08-24 12:29:05

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Oh P.S. you can take your ID card and shove it! Make not carrying one a crime and I shall becopme a criminal. I have quite enough ID about my person already thank-you. And switch that ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffflipping CCTV camera off while you're about it!

 

   In light of all the recent unpleasantness - Posted on 2006-08-24 12:52:36

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"No-one ever got peace through bombing campaigns, that only comes when the fighting stops and the talk starts." Agree with you 100% there Rev however, it only applies when you deal with rational thinkers not fundamentalist fanatics!!!

 

   In light of all the recent unpleasantness - Posted on 2006-08-24 13:20:29

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Just remember that they are ALWAYS the minority. And remember that hearts and minds (Borneo) succeeds whereas a grip on the trouser department (Vietnam) almost always fails.

 

   In light of all the recent unpleasantness - Posted on 2006-08-24 13:34:37

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"Just remember that they are ALWAYS the minority." who are quite willing and able to wreak havoc amongst society!!! It's my honest opinion, and you may not agree but it's just my opinion, that this minority isn't listening, aren't prepared to listen and more worryingly don't want to hear what others have to say.

 

   In light of all the recent unpleasantness - Posted on 2006-08-24 13:49:12

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No argument outlaw, isn't it always the selfish, self righteous minority who fornicate things up for the rest of us. Point is, they will only destroy society by destroying its cohesion, divide and rule, "you're either my ally or my enemy" (Dubya), "you're only a true Englishman/Muslim/LFC fan/ patriot (Delete as applicable) if you........ Young men are, in the majority, hot heads and succumb very easily to this sort of bollocks, God knows I was guilty of it myself in my youth (I blush). Get out there, talk to everyone, smile at an immigrant and stamp on anyone who tells you that "they" are all the same (Remembering that you are a "they" to someone else makees this easier!).

 

   In light of all the recent unpleasantness - Posted on 2006-08-24 20:47:34

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Sorry to dampen your claim to glory there rev, but you have a ID Card already. In fact most of us do who drive...............did we ask for photo licences? Thats the way they sneaked it in, now the excuse will be, well you hold a form of one already. PAy us loads and have another, so with licence, passport and ID we should be safe from all these attacks from unknow perps? I think not, we are being regressed and the immigrants given more freedom and rights than us. Sad days, i bet E Powell, Churchill, Montgommery are spinning in their graves.........

 

   In light of all the recent unpleasantness - Posted on 2006-08-24 21:09:41

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i heard a song once.........there aint no black in the union jack it just doesnt seem to have the same ring to it these days, i know the colonies have a half-decent shout to live here but FFS close the f**cking doors!! As for the original big brother your right Ox i'm sick of it........it used to be enough for a mans name to mean something now we 'need' more plastic crap in our wallets! I've heard enough of the government rants about getting into debt with credit cards and loans and the like. They encourage us not to resort to such means but to live within our means.......so just to make it crystal there dissuading us from using it but encouring us into the plastic way of life?? dont use plastic but do use plastic? Biometrics?? WTF-implants-fuck right off! get anybody near me trying to put a chip in my body like a tag will get my FULL attention. sod this, as asoon as poss were off to the the land of the kiwi/ozzie/polite yank ( delete as applicable) Radio 1 had a poll today about all this and not such a surprising amount of folk said to get em out..... you know what i say? HOORAH HOORAH HOORAH

 

   In light of all the recent unpleasantness - Posted on 2006-08-24 22:49:13

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see thats the point.... a majority of folk would be happy to see the end of immigration for a good few years and more than happy to see the back of islamic immigrents alltogether. but at the end of the day our government wants us all to go along with the " multi cultural society " bollocks. FFS they aint welcome here. they want to change our country, and our government are too spineless and PC to tell em where to get off. fact is the people of this country are so apathetic that they will do nothing until they ban carboot sales and caravaning..... our freedoms are eroded every day and yet we do nothing. a new type of government is needed where the people decide via referendum. me i want to see a refurendum that asks wether we should kick all the undesirables out and see what happens. (knowing my luck they will want bikers kicked out).

 

   In light of all the recent unpleasantness - Posted on 2006-08-24 23:40:47

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ive said all along,,,but was branded racist.i aint,theres many brits who play the system too......in fact if were honest,theres much more than there is them.but what ive always said is,let them in if theres jobs,which there is.cuz our lot wont do em.but make em abide by our laws......thats all...let them do the jobs we dont want....meanwhile half of uk pop are happy on dole.....sweat dreams peeps

 

   In light of all the recent unpleasantness - Posted on 2006-08-25 07:49:09

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It seems to be the eastern european population that are now decending on our country....This will be a big problem for many reasons..

 

   In light of all the recent unpleasantness - Posted on 2006-08-25 09:16:55

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i'm just fed up with it all ............ i don't want to have to start wearing a daft looking scarf on my head it looks sh*t on me! please please please somebody do something about it b4 they make me have to wear PJ looking things alday too!!!!!!!!!! and i don't want to smell of curry either.

 

   In light of all the recent unpleasantness - Posted on 2006-08-25 18:11:09

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What is that smell then roe?

 

   In light of all the recent unpleasantness - Posted on 2006-08-25 18:28:14

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It was highlighted in the news this week about polish immigrants with trades coming over here to do our jobs, they take a lower wage and disregard any health and safety issues. Apparent number of immigrants into the country up to now is 400k, reality is its closer to 600k. Unemployment in England is up. Why ?? Because some useless beurocrat decided to let all and sundry into the country and let them stay 20 to a single bedroom flat, take our jobs for a lower wage and watch us born here suffer. I have been on the end of this shitty stick so know what its like. You cannot compete with an estonian who will work for £60 a week. Rascist or not (of which i am not) the sooner a cap is placed on this stupidity and most of the freeloaders shipped back to whatever rock they crawled out from under the better. If the government cannot control it now, they never will. You have asian communities for one example kicking off about the influx of immigrants, a lot of these asians were born here and believe it or not are standing on the side of the BNP. The likes of the toxteth and brixton riots will look like small fry once the muck does hit the fan. A revolution is coming mark my words.

 

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