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    petition - Posted on 2007-07-17 16:58:05

sozzle
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im petitioning the management of this site to remove gixxer.his comments are insulting,degrading and illegal.inciting racial hatred is a crime.it should not be tolerated on a bike website.this has to end now.

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   petition - Posted on 2007-07-17 17:35:15

rev_
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unfortunatley dude i think there is a freedom of speech issue there....on another point i will stand up and hurl non PC abuse at any terrorist inciting racial hatred if it gets the problem recognised and acknowledged by our week government......

some people will stand up for what they believe in, even if its not exactly 'nice'

tis without condoning such behaviour the way of the world.....btw petitions on 2wheel? dont make me laugh......get some thicker skin :D

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   petition - Posted on 2007-07-17 17:40:23

sozzle
400cc Rider 

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jk
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i cant believe you people.should the jews have thicker skin over what the nazis did?should africa and india have thicker skin over atrocities commited there?there are some people who use their faith to justify their actions.you cannot blame the whole faith for a few idiots actions.people fought the nazis to stop people like this commiting the same actions again.pandering to it and saying oh its not that bad or have thicker skin is an insult to the people who fought and died to protect and uphold their beleif in a way of life that didnt include the persecution of anyone.

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   petition - Posted on 2007-07-17 17:49:16

rev_
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Soap Box...
step ladder...
use...
to climb down......

and please dont anybody even try and lecture me on appreciating what our fore-fathers have sacrificed for us in the past......as a serving member of Her Maj's Armed forces...ffs

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to all those opposed............hmm?

your here for a good time......not a long time!!!

 

   petition - Posted on 2007-07-17 17:38:03

sleddriver
250cc Rider 

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WISE UP...I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT FREEDOM OF SPEECH IS FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT IN A DEMOCRATIC SOCIETY. JUST BECAUSE YOU DON`T AGREE WITH WHAT HAS BEEN SAID DOESN`T GIVE YOU OR ANYONE ELSE THE RITE TO PUBLICALLY ASK FOR THE PERSON WHO HAS GIVEN YOU OFFENCE TO BE REMOVED. IF YOU READ THE DO NOT POST LIST, NUMBER 3, YOU SHOULD USE THE CONTACT US LINK. YOU ARE AS GUILTY BY YOUR OWN STANDARDS OF VICTIMISATION AND THEREFORE IN ITSELF ARE IN BREACH OF THE FORUM RULES.

I MYSELF FIND THAT ALL FORUMS ARE LIKE TELEVISION..IF YOU DON`T LIKE WHATS ON..YOU ARE FREE TO TURN OVER TO ANOTHER CHANNEL. ALSO THAT BY HIGHLIGHTING THAT WHICH CAUSES YOU OFFENCE YOU ARE DRAWING ATTENTION TO THE ISSUE AND THOSE THAT MAY HAVE JUST SKIPPED OVER IT ARE NOW GIVING IT CLOSER INSPECTION AND MAY AGREE WITH WHAT IS BEING SAID ESPECIALLY IF THEY ARE FACT BASED AND TRUE ARTICLES.

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   petition - Posted on 2007-07-17 17:52:18

Mark
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Sozzle, if you want to bring anything to my attention or to get me to do anything there is a contact us link at the top of every page.

There are also rules about posting to this site, please read them before you post.
Quote: "Complaints about other users or any activity on this site should be made using the 'Contact Us' link on the top of each page. Complaints posted into the forum will be deleted and your account will be suspended."



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"No matter what happens, somebody will find a way to take it too seriously."
unashamedly stolen.

 

   petition - Posted on 2007-07-17 17:56:12

sozzle
400cc Rider 

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jk
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dont bother,i wont be using this site again.shame cos some nice people in here.some very nice people.you shouldnt let a few spoil it.oh sorry,you already have.bye.

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   petition - Posted on 2007-07-17 17:59:53

bear
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Sozzle..... look m8 freedom of speech is an important fundemental right, one that is being eroded day in day out. Gixxer has his opinions as do you. you may never agree with them and likewise he may never agree with yours, However it should be the case that both parties can have their say and agree to differ.
I have read the post about the bloke that was murdered and bearing in mind its not been written by either gixxer or a proffesional journalist but by a political party with its own agenda, i still find that the post has a legitmate reason to be brought to our attention. It is a fact that the vast majority of "race hate" crimes that are prosecuted seem to be of indiginous peoples of this isle being charged, when the reality is that hate crimes are commited by all, irrespective of the colour of thier skin . Its a human trait to distrust those who are different from us,no matter wether that is right or wrong.
I have been racially abused by those that belong to an ethnic minority... I have been called scum , white trash i have been spat on etc this does not endere the minorities to me though i do take on board that not all folk within that section of society are like that.
The current state of affairs in this country is that we are at War with Two countries that happen to be overwhelmingly islamic. We also have the problem that certain factions in our own country are baiting the youth of islamic communities into acts that are unacceptable to ALL.
It does not surprise me that the police are not considering this Crime as a hate crime though it does pose the question why the fook not?
personaly i find it unacceptable that those responsible will not seemingly attract a stiffer sentance for the murder of this man due to the police not considering it a hate crime. My own opinion of this cowardly murderer is that he should face the rest of his life behind bars with no hope of parole as should all murderers but the sad fact is the chances are the murderer wil get out in under 10 years.
Its all well and good to be PC if thats your thing but you also must not allow yourself to become blinkered to the realities of the state of our nation. make no mistake those apologists of terrorists and criminals days are numbered. they will be voted out of power and consigned to history.
Why should the people of the UK apologise for our history? i wasnt alive when we had an empire, i never oppressed anyone, i dont care if folk from around the world want to live here as long as they are going to contribute to our society and rich heritige but i do object to freeloaders and trouble makers, especially those that state their aim to have crescent flag flying over downing street , Buckingham palace ,and want to impose sharia law on all of us. (sharia law wouldnt allow alcohol by the way ....and thats the least of it).
Iv said it before and i'll say it again religion is at fault here at least in part, but also there are those that are just plain evil in all walks of life. in this case the evil is plain enough to see (and im not talking about the BNP either....they didnt stab some bloke in the back in front of his children!)

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   petition - Posted on 2007-07-17 18:40:50

sozzle
400cc Rider 

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as always a reasoned argument bear.im all for debate and people having an opinion.of course its not right to let someone stab someone else,even if he was an activist for an inherantly racist organisation.how many asian and black people have suffered similar attacks?terrorists should be shot in my opinion but terrorists dont just exsist in iraq.it could be said that the killing of the english citizen by the russians was an act of terrorism.there are also people who are called terrorists by some and freedom fighters by others.i dont believe that stirring up hatred for one group of people helps anyone.not all muslims are bad.there are tossers just like christians and jews and anyone else you care to mention.tarring them all with the same brush simply creates hatred and in extreme cases creates terrorists.if we as british people do not rise above such things we simply leave ourselves open to more terrorist activities.the answer does not lie in hating an entire religion,minority or colour.this should apply to muslims as well as us.i do think the muslim community should be doing more to help relations and that people who come to this country should abide by its laws.if they dont want to,leave.if i went to an arabic country i would respect their laws.if we continue to disingender the muslim community we serve only to make it worse for our troops serving in iraq etc.its about respect.they should respect us and we should afford them the same.treat people as you wish to be treated.now if anyone wants to debate this in a grown up manner,all the better.to promote a mans death to further your own cause is wrong.

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   petition - Posted on 2007-07-17 19:06:52

count
400cc Rider 

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Somewhere!
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Chill dude, lifes to short for some.Keep your blood presure down.

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   petition - Posted on 2007-07-17 19:10:57

sleddriver
250cc Rider 

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Location:
third rock from the sun
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try being an irish catholic living in a british ruled state for the last 35 years and then come and talk to me about injustices..then we can debate all you want about free speech, terrorism, freedom fighters, religous intolerance, human rights abuses or any other topics that you have any kind of first hand knowledge of . there`s a part of me seems to remember that this is some kind of motorbike chat web site so can we get back to what this site is about and use the appropriate mechanisms already in place to deal with what some may deem offensive stuff ???

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   petition - Posted on 2007-07-17 20:55:24

gixxer
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touched a nerve there apparently! i am only expressing personal opinions , not the opinions of this site or anything/anyone to do with it! thanks!

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   petition - Posted on 2007-07-17 21:03:46

catherine
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Montgomery
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Sozzle, forgive me for saying, but, and I quote " if anyone wants to debate this in a grown up manner,all the better"

Who is it that's throwing his toys out of the pram and keeps threatening to stomp off into the sunset?

Why do you bother to read stuff that you know is going to get you all grumpy and throw another tantrum, and yet another threat to leave? Are you hoping people will beg you to stay?

I'm sorry, but I haven't been on here for a week, and first thing I see when I do pop in is you having another hissy fit. Did you mention something about debating this in a grown up manner? Perhaps you should do the growing up bit first

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   petition - Posted on 2007-07-17 22:08:00

bear
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cumbria
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Does this site only exist for us to talk about bikes then? Are we so one dimensional? i think not.

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   petition - Posted on 2007-07-17 22:27:06

Martin
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Kent
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actually i just wrote a lot but hey ...

sod it why should i bother ...

I think most people have kinda got a hint of my opinion and if any of you really find me objectionable then im sure u can PM me and arrange to come and kick my head in like your nazi friends wud :o)

tc yeah



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   petition - Posted on 2007-07-17 22:56:59

the_ox
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London
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Mart you always take that stance, oh beat me up if you don't like me..........

Were you abused as a child?


FFS having an opinion isnt wrong.




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