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    here we go then - Posted on 2007-07-21 09:51:54

sozzle
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right then,here goes.your views on muslims and racial tensions in general.no fighting or ranting.informed discussion only.no one is to have a go at anybody or cause ***FILTERED WORD*** e.lets have a proper discussion.your thoughts please............

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   here we go then - Posted on 2007-07-22 04:48:38

magicmarker
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Ah yes RELIGION we all know about Religion dont we I have probably learned more about religion more in the last three years and I still havent figured it out but the one thing I have noticed is we all want the same things for ourselves our children our families to follow the basic rules that all religions put before would get us from point A to point B but it seems we have to go and install man somewhere and thats what gums up the works every time Or should I say the buildings we go to. and the people who run them its not the word from any one religion it's the Freaking Idiots in charge we are such sheep we have no inteligents on our own only in waring packs can we seem to do any thing and then it always turns out wrong.RELIGION? what is religion Im just a Man alone without (A) religion and much happier than a lot who have one.I know the diffrence between right and wrong in my daily life and have no remorse for that reason I only have myself to fight with and there aint much of that going on. I dont want 100 vergins when I die One opinionated wife now is plenty. RELIGION or CHURCH whats the real problem you thinkreal hard on that Religion in it's self is harmless its the massing of religion and I think that has really brought us all to our ?

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   here we go then - Posted on 2007-07-22 08:38:42

sozzle
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hmm.i suppose religion is like everything,its a good idea at the time but is twisted so people can use it for their own means.i do agree people should speak basic english to gain entry.my singers bulgarian and he and his wife speak it well.he always says he has come to england so he wants to be english.to do what english do and abide by the laws.if you think there is racism in this country ask a bulgarian.they hate the greeks.historical thing.i still think we should be careful not to tar everyone with the same brush.people are individuals after all.there are muslims who want to work and intergrate and abide by british law.i know cos ive met loads.taxi drivers are a prime example.i get talkin to loads of em an they all say the same.the young uns are making em look bad an if they want islamic law to piss off to an islamic country.so you see its not just the white man who gets upset by this sort of thing.good points so far people.aint we all grown up.lol

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   here we go then - Posted on 2007-07-22 10:33:34

TERRORTUBBY
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Religion, funny thing religion.

All claim to be the one true faith, all claim that their way is the only way.

Lets think about a few things respective religions and faiths have brought the world shall we?

The Crusades, War and ethnic cleansing, female circumcision, male circumcision, international terrorism hatred and prejudice.

That's only a very short list.

Best thing to do with religion is ignore it, it will eventually disappear and we'll be a truly non secular society. It's funny that every time a faith starts to lose subscribers some terrible thing will happen and the world will all turn to their respective gods and the whole cycle starts again.

I'm happily agnostic and respect every-ones rights to believe what they will as long as they do not try to evangelise at me about their faith.

I have no faith in religion or it's prophets , priest's or holy men.

I do however believe in trying to be decent and living a peaceful life, so that's what I'm off to try and do.

Regards

Gary

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   here we go then - Posted on 2007-07-22 13:04:18

rev_
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Taxi drivers Sozzle? the majority i use/known/have known work for cash in hand therfore not paying taxes or national insurance....i know 3 taxi drivers with the same name but strangely enough only use one insurance document....i have had a bump in a car where the asian female got out of the car and pretended to be a copper! i looked at her 'badge; although it wasnt a bad copy it was still a copy....i offered to call the police you know what she did? she got in her car sharpish and fooked off!
i realise not everyone is to be tarred with the same brush...but like religion...if i cant see it/touch it/ taste it/feel it or have scientific concrete evidence it exists it isnt there!!!!
THe patron St of this country(albeit not a true Englishman) was a Christian....we have had wars over religion and politics....these are the two main causes of war. The trouble making immigrants are preying for a war...they want our country to be like their own 'homeland'...my personal opinion is if they love their homeland so much why dont they leave and fook off back there? Well we all know the answer to this dont we...its called FREE LIVING....yes benefits, the NHS, free dental, homes money etc......the amount of asian families i know/have known that live here for 20-30 years just to save up to either:
A) bring their families over fro more free living or
B) milk us dry and then go back to where they came.

As for the BNP they will never get in power although maybe if enough of us vote for em the major parties may take note and realise the pressure cooker we BRITISH are living in and do something about it? close the borders? pull out of European politics? put a machine gun on no-mans land and shoot everybody without a British passport? im not a politician but i know that something needs to be done.
WE dont have to go the way of the Nazi's and kill em all....i do not agree with that at all. I just want our country back.
the prisons are overfull......the low paid menial jobs dont get done....hmmmm...how about some of these dangerous criminals in prison for lets say non-payment of council tax like the 84 y/o who refused to pay up are releasd on 'tag' and do the jobs nobody else wants?
It seems to me the people flocking to our fair shares are only after one thing...an easy life. unfortunatley the genuine people who come here to work and live an honest life are overshadowed by the lazy, theiving, benefit stealing tosspots, racial hatred stirring 'clerics'. As Ox said...how can someone with no income afford a £350,000 house in North London when i still cant afford to buy a house?
all this money in safes...has there been any tax paid on it? i seriously doubt it and if you can honestly put your hand on heart and believe they are doing nothing wrong then you are a fool. nothing personal but if people are that naive and let these scum carry on with their daily lives without blinking an eye or doing something about it we wil be overrun and you will see the crescent flag more and our own National identity dissappear........

If i were to apply to be an MP and strood up plain and simple and held a vote for closing the doors to our glorious nation how many would follow me? You and i both know i would have massive support from the British people...the immigrants/asylum seekers would cack themselves...

so come on, hyperthetically(?) how many would support me?

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   here we go then - Posted on 2007-07-22 13:34:10

nutmeg
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well all ive got to say is that religion divides and is maybe the cause of more wars than maybe anything else....thats why i say count me out! (ex catholic)

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   here we go then - Posted on 2007-07-22 13:42:13

bear
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the problem with standing for parliament is simply that it dosnt matter how many folk in the country agree with your "manifesto" it only matters how many in your constitiuency agree. If the UK had Proportional representation nationaly then perhaps you would stand a chance, however if you said that your position was to exclude or expell immigrants (for whatever reason) you would probably A) find yerself in front of the beak! and B) be ridiculed by the main parties to the point that the electorate ( in general a poorly educated and easily led bunch) would simply not vote for ya cos you would be described as a neo nazi or some such.
the reality of trying to be elected to parliament is that it is bloody expensive and more or less pointless if your an independant one vote in the chamber will rarely make a differance.

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   here we go then - Posted on 2007-07-22 13:55:24

rev_
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so hyperthetically then??

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to all those opposed............hmm?

your here for a good time......not a long time!!!

 

   here we go then - Posted on 2007-07-22 13:54:55

bear
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" Religion is the opiate of the masses" Karl Marx. Clever bloke that , had a dream that all would be truly equal unfortunatly like all philosiphy ( wether political or religious) once other people get involved they twist the teachings too suit themselves.


"who joins a commitee that dusnie hae an axe to grind" my greatgrandad.

weak willed folk always want strong leaders for some reason or other cant see the point meself wouldnt trust any leader (wether religious or political) as far as i could throw the feckers!
Religion is definatly divicive in that it will ask its believers to do the bidding of its leaders in the name of god! In catholic dogma it is said that man is given free will and this is apparently why big G dosnt get involved with mans affairs dosnt prevent disasters dosnt stop disease etc. Me I chose to exercise my free will by ignoring organised religion and its demands. I will choose to pick holes in their dogma and ridicule them for the con men they are.


Oh and i will also choose to bugger off to the pub and have a few beers and a huge pastie with mushy peas and gravy. see yas.

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   here we go then - Posted on 2007-07-22 14:38:00

rev_
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nicely dodged m8......

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to all those opposed............hmm?

your here for a good time......not a long time!!!

 

   here we go then - Posted on 2007-07-22 15:29:05

the_ox
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I would.



Enouch Powell was right, even all those years sgo.




cheers

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   here we go then - Posted on 2007-07-22 18:45:56

bear
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Under the present political way of doing things i wouldnt waste my time or money in standing for election as an independant. nor would i recommend anyone else doing so. Independants that are elected have absolutly no power what so ever, this is because they are elected as a one trick pony, ie to save a local hospital or summat similar, fact is 4 or 5 years later your out of a job, as you cant actually bring about the changes you are sent to parliament for. Independants, when elected, are a huge slap in the face for one or all of the big 3 parties so you can be sure they aint gonna help your cause, unless of course a hung parliament is elected, in that case all 3 parties will atempt to woo you to their way of thinking with promises to assist your wants and needs, chances are they will do nothing at all.
but if you have a spare grand or whatever the cost of the deposit is to spare and you fancy yer chances then go for it, but it will cost you a hell of a lot more (in both cash and time ) than you think. if you dont get enough votes you lose yer money .

Nothing will change in UK politics as long as the system for elections remains as it is ie the first past the post, PR may work it may not we aint likely to find out lets face it. true democracy could only exist if WE the electorate had the final say in all legislation. this would have to be by referendum, and there aint a politician out there who is gonna be willing to give up his little bit of power over us all.


"Dont vote it only encourages them" and..... "those who want to be politicians should be forever banned from being one" billy connelly.

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   here we go then - Posted on 2007-08-07 11:38:35

Ninja38
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Excellent Bear A1 answer.


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