just had a leaflet through my door saying "vote for labour" in the local elections on 3rd May .......... now i won't be but there was something interesting on this leaflet. Apparently since the Lib Dems took over Chesterfield 4 years ago the car parking charges alone have gone up by wait for it ........... 878% !!!!!!!!!!! and its set to go up by more too and there r threats to charge blue badge holders as well pmsl i thought it was getting more expensive lol and apparently our council are forecasting to lose money between now and 2009 ......... maybe they shouldn't have put that brand new reception and walk way up to the housing office then eh? especially when there was nothing wrong with the old one. its a joke and all the local councils r as bad as one another ........ they should be run as a business, keeping costs done for the consumer, offering good services and all they have to do is manage there money better and not waste it on usless crap!!!!!!!!!
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Just thought I'd add (cos I can't resist it - as usual), how do you think other countries feel about other cultures arriving in their country and "taking over" Sprag? Yes, we let people live in this country too freely but this is the consequence of our own mistakes for voting and keeping Labour in power.
BNP is the biggest loada bullshit going and anyone who falls for their statements are an even bigger fools. What could they possibly do to make this country better? Burn anybody with foreign blood, beside the thames? pmsl
If I was registered to vote (I was too late :o( ), I would also vote tory for the same reason as Roebs i.e. they're the only party stand a chance of getting labour out and some sanity back in Britain.
Elections - Posted on 2007-05-01 19:46:47
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voting tory cos they stand a chance of getting labour out! dont kid yourself they are no better (short memory have you? 18 years of mismanagement and corruption not ring any bells? too young to remember the misery that thatcher and her cohorts caused? the industry destroyed etc etc.....)
did you know for instance that labour increased public spending from 318 billion to over 520 billion (thats a year by the way) the conservatives certainly wouldnt have increased public spending...indeed they were calling for cuts last time in office!.
minimum wage not ring any bells either? i can remember seeing jobs advertised at £1.20 per hour when thatch was around...... funnily enough i can remember the same hourly wage being offered under major as well. oh and to put that into context i was working back then and was on 5.50 an hour plus bonus too. i was lucky. many folk wernt. mind you my luck didnt last and i was one of thatcher millions, nothing much changes. I would sooner cut off my own arm than vote for the tories (i dont trust right wing politicians no matter how reasonable they may seem.)
I noticed that cameron is trying to make out that the conservative party is now the party of the working man!!! FFS i nearly pissed myself laughing to hear that "born with a silver spoon in his mouth" educated at eton tosspot coming out with that old bollocks.
Vote for who you will i dont care as long as you vote.
Oh and as for labour being to balme for immigration... thats kinda funny as when elected they carried on with tory policy. Thatch and major locked us in to europe and as such we have to (by euro law) take a certain amount of assylm seekers/immigrants. Now i dont have a problem with those who come legaly as long as they dont set about re-creating the squaler they came from here. i also dont see why we have to bend over backwards to accomadate folk of differing religious beliefs. you want a mosque ? then fecking pay for it yerself. dont expect the tax payer to foot the bill.
All government should be secular and never ...NEVER! get involved with the god botherers. I do however blame Blair and co for the upsurge in Political correctness that blights this country that needs to be dealt with and stamped out forever.
Elections - Posted on 2007-05-02 08:17:11
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I remember Thatcher and the tories well, although only young at the time. I'm also still suffering the consequences of the abolishment of the apprenticeship in my job (engineering recruitment) as there's now a huge skills shortage in hands-on engineering bods thanks to that stupid mistake.
I am not saying that the Tories were right in everything they done nor can they correct the mistakes that Blair has made, however could make a difference as could any other strong party. If I thought it would make a difference (and could vote) I would back lib dem but don't think they'll be strong enough to get labour out of the hot seats.
All political parties lie there way into power and then change the goal posts when in power, there's nothing that we can do except sit back and wait for something better unless we are willing to run for PM ourselves pmsl
Maybe we should start a 2WT political movement..... we would have to choose a PM, who would like to run for that seat? Ox, Bear, Roebs, Mark, etc? lol
Elections - Posted on 2007-05-02 10:29:57
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You may have a point bubbs if all you are interested in is getting labour out as you correctly assume that voting lib dem would do little good (at a general election anyway).At a local election folk could do worse than vote lib dem as they can and have taken control of various councils at local level (not sure if they have done any good mind.)
The ending of the traditional apprenticships was a stupid and damaging idea, i can remember when i was working in construction the old guys saying that 15 -20 years down the road there would be a shortage of skilled labour because of the ending of apprentice schemes... and how right they were.
The construction industry had been reducing its intake of apprentices /improvers for years and back in the mid 80's there simply was not enough steel erectors and various other tradesmen, it got to the point that while canary warf was being built that the company in charge of that contract were bringing erectors from norway and paying them 20 pounds an hour ! the UK guys were getting around 8 quid an hour.
Today we have a situation where the young have little desire to do anything other than act the fool, there is no structure in their lives, no need to get up and go to work (there isnt the industry there to give them a trade anymore.) a couple of years ago becoming a plumber was the thing to do, and loads of folk went to college off their own back to gain some qualifications in the hope of going to london and earning around 90 k a year. of course that was a pipe dream but many tried anyway and made a decent living. since european intigration and harmonisation of working abroad etc folk from poland and other former eastern block countries have come here in their thousands all claiming to be plumbers or other trades now this may not be a bad thing as lets face it the country IS short of tradesmen but why dosnt any government consider making employers more responsible, lets face it if you were in government and a group of employers were complaining of not being able to find trades men wouldnt you consider telling em straight that they should get of their arses and stick their hands in their pockets and start training the people they need? Quit moaning and find a solution should be governments reply. The re-introduction of REAL apprenticships would be a bloody good plan for a start.
Lets face it any country will always need a supply of tradesmen. I can think of a couple of projects that could be government sponserd such as the building of more prisons ( to keep the dodgy neer do wells in and ending all this let em out bollox). Labour claims to be training more nurses and doctors than anyone else previously but they cant get jobs apparently SO perhaps a few new hospitals should be built as well! I reckon that the tax payer wouldnt mind their money going towards something that would employ thousands in the construction phase and hundreds when finished cos at least we could all see the point of the money being spent and lets face it the cash would be better spent on projects like that than abroad fighting a war that no one really understands or wants.( although my views on the war differ somewhat from the majority, i saw it as a nessersary evil, mind you i would have just nuked the feckers off the face of the planet by now. would have been cheaper ! but at least they couldnt claim it was being done to control oil).
We should as voters consider more often giving our vote to an independant . how much fun it would be to be an independant MP in a hung parliament cos the power you would have to throw a spanner in the works would be there plus of course the independant mp wouldnt have a party line to follow and any particular axe he/she had to grind would be fairly small and innofensive for the most part.
It was the tories that increased the fee you have to pay to stand for parliament it was summat like £100 but due to loads of funnsters like screaming lord such and the monster raving loonies thatch raised the fee to £1000 (it didnt stop the MRLP but it did put off the independants that could have made life difficult for em had they ever been elected.) if it cost £100 i reckon i would have a go but a grand represents a lot of beer/bike tokens.
I voted labour all my life and probably will again (but not till blair is gone for good and the rest of his cronies too) till then i will vote for the least offensive too me party, i wont just not vote cos that would be wrong.BUT no matter what i will NEVER vote for the tories their legacy has ruined this country in general and my life in particular, Tony Blair has done some good (nowhere near enough mind) but will only be remembered for the war in iraq and the lies told to take us there. His idea of making the labour party become a centre right party was a big mistake in my view especially when you consider that as soon as he was elected to power he said he was going to carry on with some of the tory policy FFS he was elected to power so the country could be rid of their policies and the tosspot didnt make use of the massive majority he had to put through many usefull plans instead wasting his chances for political immortality with projects of political correctness.
We get the government we deserve i guess. If the voting figures are to be believed then almost half the voters dont bother to turn out..... but they still bitch and moan about who gets in! Make Voting mandatory and put a none of the above box on the voting slip.
ooops bit of a long rant this.
Elections - Posted on 2007-05-02 11:57:20
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I can just see the "Vote Bear" banners lol
Elections - Posted on 2007-05-02 14:26:05
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to just add my little bit....
i have never voted in my whole life.......why..........
the day i vote is the day i actually see a mp at my door talking to me about what hes gonna do about my town, as that has never ever happened i wont be voting at all,
and before anyone says it, no i don't go moaning about how this country is run or how high my council tax is or how many times my bins are empyted, because at the end of the day doesnt matter who 'gets in' they all wan***** anyway.....
oh the only thing i moan about is when tesco run out of my fav wine!!!!!
Elections - Posted on 2007-05-02 19:02:25
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Rev..... you just proved what I suspected...... your full of shit.
Elections - Posted on 2007-05-02 20:13:53
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Sprag. Its ok to disagree and hold a different opinion but DONT make it a personal issue. I dont care one way or the other what your opinions are (im a firm believer in expressing yerself) but try not to fall into the trap of insulting others for their equally valid opinions. A forum is a place to debate differing thoughts, it isnt the end of the world if your thoughts differ from another, you can try to change a persons opinion but it isnt on to just insult someone cos they think differntly to yourself.
Elections - Posted on 2007-05-03 07:06:15
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bear.... that prat rev insulted me first so I was only returning the favour so kindly butt out will you? I dont need people like you telling me what I will or wont say on a website....... jeeeeeez its getting like MCN in here with all these 'holyer than tho' numpties getting on my case. I get sick of people who think just because they dont agree with who I vote for they have the right to tell me I'm wrong. I dont give a rats arse who rev or you for that matter vote for, I simply said who I voted for is all.
Elections - Posted on 2007-05-03 11:27:36
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sprag. i dont give a monkeys if your a racist. i dont care if you vote BNP (as far as im concerned your making use of your vote thats the main thing).however telling someone they are full of shit isnt allowed . there are rules on posting in the forum and in the chatroom. im a moderator. As for me having a holier than thou attitude( and being a numpty apparently) and stickin me nose in thats part of the moderators job. Forums are a place where different opinions and debate happen. some folk wont agree with you some folk will. but an out and out insult/slangin match/flame war whatever isnt summat anyone wants to see .
Perhaps you could tell us why you think that voting for the BNP in a local election will do any good (mind you if you have a go at that folk will disagree with the comments and argue the toss tis the nature of a forum). Personaly i dont reckon it will make a fat lot of difference who gets in in the local elections anyway they are all liars with a personal axe to grind . But go ahead put your views up.lets have a debate!
As for me kindly butting out..... not gonna happen..... as for telling you what to think likewise not gonna happen. All i will do is point out rules 2 and 3. that goes for anyone on here. Folk DO have the right to disagree with you and also to say so as long as they dont use foul launguage (rule 3) or abuse others (rule 2).
Elections - Posted on 2007-05-03 11:59:46
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just a thought folks..... you will all be aware that nationalist parties are quite common these days (SNP and plyd cymru for instance) now as anyone knows nationalist politics are by their nature right wing and what i want to know is why the only nationalist party that gets loads of stick is the British one..... no one calls the scottish nationalists facists or the welsh either. Is the BNP really suffering from a reputation earned back in the 80's or have they not changed or is it a case of folk just dismissing them due to political correctness? genuine question this im interested to hear folks thoughts.
Elections - Posted on 2007-05-03 12:30:11
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in reply to me running for office .......... 1, i don't know enough about politics and 2, i don't know how to lick arse so there is no way i could do it.
I only know whats fair and how I would like things to be but unfortunatly not everyone is going to agree and there lies the problem. which ever political denomination u r from u r never going to please everyone its impossible.
Elections - Posted on 2007-05-03 13:28:32
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Yuk Roeby, who would even think about licking somebodies arse???
:----Bubbles is feeling sick--------:
pmsl
Elections - Posted on 2007-05-03 13:44:28
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well they all lick ass don't they? mp's i mean
Elections - Posted on 2007-05-03 14:45:55
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