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So who thinks having guns is a good idea? - Posted on 2007-04-17 09:15:03

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I suppose u have all heard about the shootings in the USA, do we think that people been able to have guns is the right thing to do when this sort of stuff happens? I know u could get one ilegally and still go round killing people but it makes it alot hard to get hold of one in the first place if they aint legal surely? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6562259.stm

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	So who thinks having guns is a good idea? - Posted on 2007-04-18 09:04:12
Roeby 1300cc Superstar Joined: Posts: 8884 Location: Derbyshire United Kingdom	i understand what u r all saying about everyone should be able to own a gun,but it just worries me to death to think of everyone out there having one.

	So who thinks having guns is a good idea? - Posted on 2007-04-18 11:29:05
bear 1300cc Superstar Joined: Friday, October 29, 2004 Posts: 5790 Location: cumbria United Kingdom	Bazz the pro gun lobby were infering that if the students were allowed to carry guns themselves then the gunman may have thought twice about going on a rampage due to the risk of getting shot himself. kinda dont think that would have worked out as the gunman in question shot himself after his killing spree. however had the other students been carrying weapons there is a good chance that the gunman would have been shot (perhaps to death) by a bystander. its an effective argument. There is a saying in the US that if you outlaw guns then only outlaws will have them. not a good situation as we over here can attest to. It would be better if folk just went toe to toe with each other and sorted their problems with their fists but at the end of the day a gun is a "great equaliser" and if a wimp gets access to one and feels agrieved enough they will use it to gain some sort of "dont f*ck with him" reputation. Its odd though that the US has the level of gun crime it does when compared to other countries that have similar levels of gun control.

	So who thinks having guns is a good idea? - Posted on 2007-04-18 12:58:27
bubblesloves69 1300cc Superstar Joined: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 Posts: 1352 Location: Next door to a pub in an interbred village, Kent United Kingdom	I hardly think that shooting yourself is a wimpish sort of thing to do! For somebody like this kid if people had cared or acted he would have got help..... instead because of his "mental instability" he is now a murderer and suicide victim. None of his actions were that of a sane human being. At least he is at peace now, it's such a crying shame that he had to take so many innocent people with him (especially for his and their families). I do not see what the point of guns are, especially in peoples houses, handbags or cars. What are your views on the death penalty? Or compulsory government service on leaving school?

	So who thinks having guns is a good idea? - Posted on 2007-04-18 18:28:58
bazzoka 750cc Boy Racer Joined: Thursday, November 11, 2004 Posts: 175 Location: . United Kingdom	Cheers bear i didnt hear that part, but is a good argument, in that he may have taken fewer lives as somebody may have acted.

	So who thinks having guns is a good idea? - Posted on 2007-04-18 18:31:06
Roeby 1300cc Superstar Joined: Posts: 8884 Location: Derbyshire United Kingdom	apparently the kid that did the shooting had a spell in a metal hospital.

	So who thinks having guns is a good idea? - Posted on 2007-04-18 18:33:38
bazzoka 750cc Boy Racer Joined: Thursday, November 11, 2004 Posts: 175 Location: . United Kingdom	i heard that to Roebs, also that his fellow students and teachers all made people aware of the way he was acting and his fascintaion for violence, also that he had had something todo with the police before the incident.

	So who thinks having guns is a good idea? - Posted on 2007-04-18 18:56:54
r1froog 1300cc Superstar Joined: Sunday, October 02, 2005 Posts: 4352 Location: aberdeen United Kingdom	worlds full of nutters...not much anyone can do before hand.....guns,,i dont no,,but theyl never be legal here,thats for sure...

	So who thinks having guns is a good idea? - Posted on 2007-04-18 19:37:33
bear 1300cc Superstar Joined: Friday, October 29, 2004 Posts: 5790 Location: cumbria United Kingdom	Wimps use guns to give themselves a reputation pure and simple. as for taking your own life not being wimpish.... he was and is a coward. suicide is the easy way out. as for my views on capital punishment. im against it. and as for government service (take it you mean national service for all ) im against that as well, wether military or community based its a method of getting cheap labour, and lets face it if someone dosnt want to be there they arnt going to do a great job.

	So who thinks having guns is a good idea? - Posted on 2007-04-18 19:44:06
Roeby 1300cc Superstar Joined: Posts: 8884 Location: Derbyshire United Kingdom	but do u not think that when we had national service b4 it made better people? look at the generations that have gone b4 us they r nothing like the tripe we bred now adays.

	So who thinks having guns is a good idea? - Posted on 2007-04-18 20:01:27
bazzoka 750cc Boy Racer Joined: Thursday, November 11, 2004 Posts: 175 Location: . United Kingdom	National service would not work in this day and age, there are enough peep sin the forces who dont really want to bethere anyways... not only that it takes away one of our great freedoms and libertys. The forces are not for everyone, it should not be pushed upon people now, During a dire time as in such a war that it was required, well then id like to hope we wouldnt have to impliment it but that people would stand up and prtoedt what we have fought so hard to achieve. There are so many reasons why it would not work in modern society i think the largets one bing the H&S brigade etc, which has gone overkill in so many places, yes i know we need it, but some ares there needs to be some lenency. For national service to work the officers and ncos would need to be able to deal with people who step out ofline accordingly to enable them to become an effective fighting force. Be honest if it was you and you wanted to be there, would you really like to trust somebvody who has been told they have todo it for 2 yrs, with a weapon by your side to cover your back? or would you rather have somebody there who wants to be there like you? I know which id rather have. And suicide was the easy way out, running away from his crime and problems, in this instance but sometime in some circumstances i beleive that suicide could be the hardest thing any individual could choose to do. As for capital punishment, i say no, as for a total re-evaluation of the prison system then yes, we want cheap labour use the prisons tae all the stty cray jobs out there and put the prisoners to work doing it, our prison system is to soft it does not do anything, even some of the sentences that are given are ridiculous.

	So who thinks having guns is a good idea? - Posted on 2007-04-18 22:49:13
r1froog 1300cc Superstar Joined: Sunday, October 02, 2005 Posts: 4352 Location: aberdeen United Kingdom	roe for 2 years in army,,,,,,now that i must see...lol

	So who thinks having guns is a good idea? - Posted on 2007-04-18 23:08:06
bazzoka 750cc Boy Racer Joined: Thursday, November 11, 2004 Posts: 175 Location: . United Kingdom	froog we all know that roe would run the army within about 6 montsh and well it would be the most stylish army on the pklanet by the time shed finished with it......cnant argue with that. roe for PM!!!

	So who thinks having guns is a good idea? - Posted on 2007-04-18 23:08:57
bazzoka 750cc Boy Racer Joined: Thursday, November 11, 2004 Posts: 175 Location: . United Kingdom	all meant in the nicest possible way there miss roeby!lol

	So who thinks having guns is a good idea? - Posted on 2007-04-19 12:14:56
ohsomadeddie 1300cc Superstar Joined: Monday, June 27, 2005 Posts: 705 Location: bottom of a newki broon bottle United Kingdom	you lot just wanna see roebs in a tight fitting uniform lol

	So who thinks having guns is a good idea? - Posted on 2007-04-19 12:40:49
Roeby 1300cc Superstar Joined: Posts: 8884 Location: Derbyshire United Kingdom	hey i'll have u know i look fabulous in a tight fitting uniform lol ........... and yes i could be in the army but i would have to run it. infact if i was in charge of the army ....... it would probably be the best army in the world lol (cue the carslberg logo)

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